In this episode, Jack Cochran and Matthew James are joined by Steve Bullington, Global Public Sector Sales Onboarding and Strategic Programs Lead at Salesforce, to explore the seismic shifts reshaping presales. Steve draws powerful parallels between today's transformation and the move from perpetual licenses to SaaS, arguing that we're experiencing an equally fundamental change as the industry shifts to consumption-based pricing models.
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The Evolution of Presales: From Technical Expert to Business Value Architect
Consumption-Based Pricing Models and the Death of Shelfware
The Critical Importance of Accurate Consumption Forecasting
Forward-Deployed Engineers: The 10x Growth of a New Role
AI's Impact on Demo Capabilities and Presales Productivity
The Current Maturity Level of AI (Comparable to SaaS in 2000)
Which Sales Roles Face AI Replacement and Future Career Pathways
The Need to Accelerate Professional Development Beyond 1% Daily





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